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Re: [reSIProcate] Getting started


Hi,

The purpose of our stateless proxy is to route calls with load balancing
within a controlled cluster of servers and to ensure high-availability
across a cluster of proxies without requiring the exchange of call state
information between them.  

Our application won't use DNS (we have our own routing database) and we
won't be maintaining transaction state.  We have internal mechanisms for
ensuring that we don't wind up with inadvertent forked calls; if a
repeated INVITE, for example, is received on a different proxy our
mechanisms ensure that it is sent to the same UAS as the original
INVITE.

If repro is dialog stateless and not transaction stateless it doesn't
buy us anything.

Best regards,

Steve Hanka


-----Original Message-----
From: Byron Campen [mailto:bcampen@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 2:47 PM
To: Jason Fischl
Cc: Steve Hanka; resiprocate-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [reSIProcate] Getting started

        Just to be absolutely clear, when Jason says "stateless proxy
based  
on resiprocate called repro", he means _dialog_-stateless, and not  
transaction-stateless.

Best regards,
Byron Campen

> Here is a snippet of the discussion. You can find more of it using
> google. I searched on:
> site:list.sipfoundry.org resiprocate stateless proxy
>
> http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/resiprocate-devel/msg00214.html
>
> The changes required in resiprocate would be substantial. I think that
> as long as the api didn't require any major changes, the community
> would be supportive.
>
> Are you sure that you need a stateless proxy? Why not use the
> existing, stateless proxy based on resiprocate called repro. It should
> do everything that you need and is high performance.
>
> It would be helpful to understand what your requirements are that
> motivate using a stateless proxy.
>
> Jason
>
>
>
> On 3/5/07, Steve Hanka <steve.hanka@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Regarding the flaws in stateless proxies that break the protocol:
>>
>> Does anyone know, in general, what these flaws are?  The RFCs
>> specifically mention support for stateless proxies and I am  
>> curious as
>> to what the problems are.
>>
>> Would anyone object if I investigated modifying the library to  
>> support
>> them again?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Steve Hanka
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jason.fischl@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:jason.fischl@xxxxxxxxx] On  
>> Behalf
>> Of Jason Fischl
>> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 1:56 PM
>> To: Byron Campen
>> Cc: Steve Hanka; resiprocate-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [reSIProcate] Getting started
>>
>> The original reason that it was deprecated was for the reasons you
>> listed. One of the consequences of deprecating it is that we stripped
>> out the support for stateless proxies from the transaction layer of
>> resip. As a result, it is no longer possible to implement a stateless
>> proxy in resip without substantial changes to the library.
>>
>> Jason
>>
>>
>> On 3/5/07, Byron Campen <bcampen@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> >  As far as I know, the stuff in deprecated is the only stateless- 
>> proxy
>> code
>> > we have. Anyone remember why specifically this was deprecated? I am
>> under
>> > the impression it was because stateless proxies in general had  
>> flaws
>> that
>> > broke the protocol in some situations, and not any specific flaw in
>> the
>> > code, but I could be wrong.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > Byron Campen
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I am just getting started with reciprocate and am trying to get my
>> mind
>> > around the system.  For the last week I have been reading the  
>> source
>> code,
>> > looking at the test code and the API documentation, and so  
>> forth.  My
>> goal
>> > is to build a stateless proxy/message-relay server with some  
>> special
>> routing
>> > and message filtering capability for use in my employer's  
>> intelligent
>> > network.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I would like to find some sample code of a simple agent and a  
>> simple
>> proxy.
>> > I note that these pages are TBD in the documentation pages and that
>> the
>> > stateless proxy code in the source distribution has been  
>> deprecated.
>> If
>> > somebody will point me to such sample code, I will gladly write the
>> > documentation pages once I figure out how the code works.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Any suggestions?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Best Regards,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Steve Hanka
>> >
>> > Steve.Hanka@xxxxxxx
>> >
>> > shanka@xxxxxxxx
>> >
>> >
>> >
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