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Re: [reSIProcate] WIKI Question....


I don't think there is a person yet who has come across that 'Need to
log in to edit pages' message and not been confused.  Perhaps we
should all try to adhere to a policy that we don't leave hanging links
around.  It should be a simple matter to add one or two sentences
saying something like, "Sorry there's not actually a page here, but if
I would have written one, it would have talked about the following. 
If you are reading this and are knowledgable about this subject,
please feel free to add this information.  In the meantime, check out
these programs in the test directory..."

So, the answer to your first question, John, is that those pages mean
that there is no Wiki page for that link yet.

In addition (or perhaps instead), we can have a heading on the main
Wiki page that warn people that they may receive those warnings, and
what they mean.

Or, even just put "(No content)" after the link.

And John, the stack is in a fairly early stage, and it's being written
by bunch of volunteers that like to spend their time monkeying with
code rather than writing documentation, especially documentation about
stuff they think is obvious because they are the ones that designed
the system.  As such, it's mostly up to higher level users like you
(and me) to populate the Wiki with information useful to newbs.  We're
even the right ones to do it because we're coming from a position of
complete ignorance, and will ask stupid questions that these other
guys already know the answer to, and wouldn't be able to imagine.

I don't use dum, but the way that I got started with the stack was by
taking a look at the test applications, and mimicking one that did
something fairly similar to what I wanted to do.  When I ran into
problems, I asked the list, and usually got a reply within an hour, if
I got one at all.  All the while, I tried to document the process I
went through, and add info to the wiki as I went along.

It may not be the most efficient system from the standpoint of a new
user, but it works, and it gives people like us a way to give back in
a meaningful way as well.

Shaun

2005/8/22, John Draper <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> Hi,
> 
> Why is it that I get....
> 
> Login required to edit
> You have to login to edit pages.
> Return to Main Page.
> 
> when I try and look at some WIKI pages....   Does this mean this
> information exists and I
> need "special access" to read it?   or does this just mean the
> information isn't there at all,
> and if so, then why hasn't anyone bothered to fix this bug or deceptive
> message?
> 
> Yesterday, I posted my thoughts on the WIKI, and asked for some
> information it promises
> but isn't there.   Does ANYONE have access to this information?   I see
> the main headers
> and topics are there, but no details.   I hope that people working on
> this, will also include
> lots of example source code on how to use the resip/dum package.
> 
> I'm now at the point where I need to learn about how I can write code to
> let me
> get the data coming back from the SIP proxy.   On one hand,  I'm getting
> indications
> that there is ONE thread, then on the other,  I'm getting indication I
> have to create
> and run a SipThread and DUMThread....  which is it?   Do I,  or do I not
> have to
> create my own thread?   Or can I just get away with calling the
> SipStack::process(...)
> method repeatedly from within the Mac's event manager by "Posting" it to
> the event
> pool.  I'm really confused here,  can someone help me?
> 
> Also,  it was proposed to setup a resip-users mailing list for us
> application programmers
> struggling with trying to use the resip package..... I think this is a
> very good idea, as long
> as there are people from the devel list who can help us newbee's and
> lamers who just
> aren't in on the "ground floor" when the resip was initially designed.
> 
> Also,  when is best time to create an "fdset".....  Would I do that at
> the beginning of
> the start of my program,  after allocating a SipStack, setting the
> handlers,  etc?
> Should it be done before or after instantiating the SipThread?   Where
> can I obtain
> sample code for doing this?   The WIKI is not help...  none of this
> information is
> accessable since I don't have a login.
> 
> Since I think I need Login access to get certain WIKI documentation,
> would I be
> out of line in asking the resip-developers to send me this document I
> cannot access?
> it would go a long ways in reducing the number of lamer questions I'm
> constantly
> peppering the developers with.
> 
> I can send a specific list of the main headings I need to look at which
> are already
> referenced in the WIKI, but no details are up there yet.
> 
> really!!!  Contrary to popular belief,  I DO RTFM if the bloody things
> exist.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
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